Friday, March 26, 2010

VOB and Timecode Problem

I'm new to video editing %26amp; Premiere Elements 7 so excuse my ignorance.



I have a Philips 3575 DVD Recorder with a hard drive. When I burn a DVD, with say three 30 minute shows, the DVD creates two VOB files. The first VOB file has 0:45:49 of video and the second VOB has the remaining video.



When I use VLC to play these two files, there are 90 minutes of video. However when I look at the timecode display, after 30 minutes, the timecode goes back to 0:00 and ends (with the first VOB) at 15:49. The second VOB file starts at timecode 15:50, continues to 30:00 and restarts at 0:00 and finishes at 30:00



When I load these two files into Premiere Elements, it shows a duration of 0:29:26:24 and 0:15:21:23 respectively. I lose the 15+ minutes of the first VOB and 30 minutes of the second VOB.



Is there a way to import VOB and ignoring the timecode in the files? Either that or have it read the appropriate timecode information that should be contained as part of the original DVD for the 3 programs?



I'm struggling a bit here, trying to get use to Premiere and trying to solve this problem so any assistance would be appreciated.



Thanks...
VOB and Timecode Problem
MPEG Streamclip should combine the two files into one file, converting it to a DV-AVI (the ideal video editing format). Here's a how-to for conversation from the FAQs at the top of this forum.

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc4800e
VOB and Timecode Problem
I just tried MPEGStreamclip and I'm finding that it is a slow process to have to convert from VOB to AVI.



Is there any application that can just adjust the VOB file? The only thing I want to do is edit out commercials. I'm not going to want to do any fancy processing.

Download the trail version of VideoRedo at http://videoredo.com it was designed for that purpose.

Note that the FAQ I linked you to also lists a number of alternatives.

All you have to do in MPEG Streamclip is do a ''Save As'' or almost just as quick is ''Convert to MPEG.''

Robert... Saving as MPEG is very fast and this extra step of conversion would be tolerable. I am noticing, however, that the file size is smaller. Is there any image or audio reprocessing involved in creating the MPEG?



Steve... Thanks for the suggestion for MPEG StreamClip and the link to your other post. I hope I don't forget that I can't install the real quicktime. :-)



Paul... Thanks for the suggestion for VideoRedo. Hopefully I can just deal with the conversion to MPEG and keep Premiere. Although it's probably more than I need, it does have some cool features that should make the workflow very efficient.

There's extra information in a VOB file, so the MPEG had better be shorter. Like I said earlier, there's no reencoding going on. It's doing frame copies.



I just timed VideoRedo against MPEG Streamclip and MPEG STreamclip is a lot faster, maybe 80 percent faster.

Thanks for the reassurance Robert. As I'm not familiar with all the different file formats, it wasn't clear whether any processing was going on. Though with the speed of saving as MPEG was so fast I wasn't sure whether it was just doing frame copies.



Good to know that StreamClip is fast compared to VideoRedo!

MPEG Streamclip is faster than using the DOS copy command to concatenate the vob files. That was somewhat of a surprise.



I retimed the ''Save AS'' vs. ''Convert to MPEG,'' and it's ''Convert to MPEG'' that is the faster, and it's the fastest of all the methods of tried so far. That was with two VOB files.

Robert

Thanks for the legwork with the faster method. I'm going to be converting my Laser Disc collection so speed will help with this part of my video project.
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