Why is it when you change to a new project you bring all those old clips from old projects in the project box along with you? I have all my projects stored on a external hd all in different folders. All scratch disks set to save in projects.
using:
Gateway 4800 2.66 4 core intel I7 chip
650 gig hd
1.5 external hd
6 gigs of ram
vista home 64 ver
Pe7
Pe7 New Project old stuff
You aren't looking at the project box, you are looking at the Orgainizer introduced in version 4. Click on the brown Edit button, which then turns orange, and then click the Project button to see what is in the project media bin. That's empty for new projects.
The Orgainzer catalog database is shared with Photoshop Elements, if you have that.
Pe7 New Project old stuff
You can delete the clips from the Organizer if you wish. Select all, right click, select delete. It will not delete the files from your PC, only remove them from the Organizer.
Hi Jerry,
The assets that you see are not from the projects, they are just the stuff that sits on your system. This (Organizer)is a tool to let us Organize and tag our clips, so that its easy to find later.
I am pretty used to the FOLDER (windows) way of doing things, but yes, when it comes to Pictures and Video, Tagging and sorting really helps.
Dont worry about the Organiser, if you are not using it. Just switch to the project view and you are set to go (as u used to do in the previous versions)
And as Johnny says, you can delete stuffs from Organizer.
Monday, March 29, 2010
PE4 with MF6 + trial version, help with...
Is there a work flow I can read up on to accomplish this. I have a Canon HV20 HDV media. Use HD Split import M2T files into PE4 preset 1080i 30, render than save to desktop as same. The file is 1440x1080. I'm trying to make a high definition disk to playback on our Pioneer Blu-Ray player. Using Movie Factory 6+ trial version. Thank you.
PE4 with MF6 + trial version, help with...
Sounds like a good workflow. What specifically are you asking help with?
PE4 with MF6 + trial version, help with...
Thanks for the reply Paul I appreciate that. Let me go back over what I've done so far as my last post was incorrect. Moved M2T clips from HDsplit into PE4 with a new project setting of NTSC-HDV 1080i 30. Saved to computer with a select MPEG pre-set HD 1080i 30. The short clip plays fine with WMP and properties is at 1920x1080. Using MF6+ I would like to burn my high definition movie clips to a standard DVD to be played back in our Blu-Ray player. Are these the right steps so far to import the clip into MF6+? I just recently downloaded the trial version but last night I found a help/info section in MF6+ so I plan on reading through that to get acquainted with their terminology.
Will I be burning a data disk to make this work? Maybe a couple of cliff notes to get me started so I can better understand how to do this. Your advice and suggestions are welcome.
Jake
If you are burning to a standard DVD then you need to select the burn an AVCHD disc option in MF6+. This does not create a data DVD but a high definition DVD with menus. You will be able to get about 20 minutes on a standard DVD.
Hi Paul, Yes I'm tying to burn to a standard DVD. In MF6+ under Recording Format there are three options.
DVD-Video
DVD+VR
DVD-VR (no menu)
Which one is the AVCHD disc option? Also in MF6+ Project Settings do I need to go back in there to change MPEG settings?
Thank you
When you click New Project in MF6+ what options do you have. I forgot that I purchased the ''HD Powerpack'' plugin, I think this enables burning AVCHD DVDs to standard discs. I can not remember if the MF6+ version alone allows this. Does it give the option to burn Blu-ray discs? If so if you select this option, down in the bottom left of the window you can select the disc type, it will offer 25GB and 50GB discs... does it also offer standard DVDS. If so use this option. If not then I think you will need the powerpack to burn to standard DVDs... which can not be downloaded for the trial MF6+ version.
Paul, as I understand it, if you burn AVCHD to a DVD, it will not play on a DVD player. It will only play on a BluRay player.
Is that true? (I just want to make sure Jake is aware of this so that he can plan his workflow accordingly.)
Afternoon Paul, I've been reading over at the Ulead/Coral site and your right, I need the HD PowerPack plug in to make it burn Blu-Ray. I found a PDF file that pretty much walks the user through it. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put forth to explain how this works. I'm definitely better for it. So at this point for ease of use I'm either going to purchase MF6+/HD PowerPack or wait until MF7 Pro is released to the United States. Thanks again.
Yes Steve, if you burn AVCHD to a DVD it will only play on a Blu-ray burner. In one of Jake's earlier posts he said that was his aim... to burn to a standard DVD that will play on a blu-ray player.
Thanks, Paul. I should have known you'd have it under control. ;)
soft lips
PE4 with MF6 + trial version, help with...
Sounds like a good workflow. What specifically are you asking help with?
PE4 with MF6 + trial version, help with...
Thanks for the reply Paul I appreciate that. Let me go back over what I've done so far as my last post was incorrect. Moved M2T clips from HDsplit into PE4 with a new project setting of NTSC-HDV 1080i 30. Saved to computer with a select MPEG pre-set HD 1080i 30. The short clip plays fine with WMP and properties is at 1920x1080. Using MF6+ I would like to burn my high definition movie clips to a standard DVD to be played back in our Blu-Ray player. Are these the right steps so far to import the clip into MF6+? I just recently downloaded the trial version but last night I found a help/info section in MF6+ so I plan on reading through that to get acquainted with their terminology.
Will I be burning a data disk to make this work? Maybe a couple of cliff notes to get me started so I can better understand how to do this. Your advice and suggestions are welcome.
Jake
If you are burning to a standard DVD then you need to select the burn an AVCHD disc option in MF6+. This does not create a data DVD but a high definition DVD with menus. You will be able to get about 20 minutes on a standard DVD.
Hi Paul, Yes I'm tying to burn to a standard DVD. In MF6+ under Recording Format there are three options.
DVD-Video
DVD+VR
DVD-VR (no menu)
Which one is the AVCHD disc option? Also in MF6+ Project Settings do I need to go back in there to change MPEG settings?
Thank you
When you click New Project in MF6+ what options do you have. I forgot that I purchased the ''HD Powerpack'' plugin, I think this enables burning AVCHD DVDs to standard discs. I can not remember if the MF6+ version alone allows this. Does it give the option to burn Blu-ray discs? If so if you select this option, down in the bottom left of the window you can select the disc type, it will offer 25GB and 50GB discs... does it also offer standard DVDS. If so use this option. If not then I think you will need the powerpack to burn to standard DVDs... which can not be downloaded for the trial MF6+ version.
Paul, as I understand it, if you burn AVCHD to a DVD, it will not play on a DVD player. It will only play on a BluRay player.
Is that true? (I just want to make sure Jake is aware of this so that he can plan his workflow accordingly.)
Afternoon Paul, I've been reading over at the Ulead/Coral site and your right, I need the HD PowerPack plug in to make it burn Blu-Ray. I found a PDF file that pretty much walks the user through it. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put forth to explain how this works. I'm definitely better for it. So at this point for ease of use I'm either going to purchase MF6+/HD PowerPack or wait until MF7 Pro is released to the United States. Thanks again.
Yes Steve, if you burn AVCHD to a DVD it will only play on a Blu-ray burner. In one of Jake's earlier posts he said that was his aim... to burn to a standard DVD that will play on a blu-ray player.
Thanks, Paul. I should have known you'd have it under control. ;)
Jerky AVCHD Video in PE7
I have a Panasonic HDC SD5 HD camcorder and have imported AVCHD footage into PE7. The camcorder video quality and the and PE7 project settings are aligned at the 1440/1080 PAL settings. My computer is a duo core with 2 Gb Ram.
My problem is that the play back after importing into PE7 is jerky and therefore impossible to edit. Yet I have loaded the same footage in Studio 12 and the HD Writer program provided with the camera and playback and edit is fine in both those programs. I have also tried it on another computer and got the same result. This seems very strange!
I am comfortable with PE7 and love its usability and would really like to be able to advance to editing in hi def - previously I have been converting the AVCHD to SD mpeg2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Jerky AVCHD Video in PE7
Adobe states you must have a quad core processor with 4 gig of ram to edit AVCHD. I have an i7 processor with 6 gig of ram and when I edit AVCHD videos the sound cuts out and the time line doesn't show all the video frames. I also have a 512 meg video card. I feel sorry for those with less power as it is probably painfull to edit AVCHD.
Jerky AVCHD Video in PE7
Thanks Paul. These specs from Adobe are prohibitive for an entry level program. I cant fathom how the other 2 programs seem to handle things OK and Adobe doesnt.
Paul %26amp; Michael,
I have been having the same problem that Michael describes. After reading Paul's post, I just went back to Adobe specifications page and it states that a dual core processor and 2 GB ram are required for AVCHD. Paul, where did you get the information on quad core and 4 gig ram? I am running a dual core 2.5GHz with 4 gig ram and it is impossible to edit AVCHD because of the jerky display.
Ron, Sorry I was looking at the faqs in this forum instead of the official spec requirements. http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
I did though try to run the app on a dual core laptop and it was just too jerky which is why I got a new computer. Some people though may have not have that issue. It may be the video drivers...
I think the recommendations in are FAQs are much more ''real world'' than Adobe's minimums, by the way, Ron.
The challenge is that Premiere Elements edits hi-def in its native video rather than with an intermediary codec.
Did you see Robert's method for tricking Premiere Elements into proxy editing? it's in the FAQs at the top of this forum.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b726ee
Also, there is software that will convert AVCHD to less intensive, traditional HDV.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b78d01
Thank you both for your imput.
Hi All,
AVCHD editing is a tough job for every software. AVCHD files are very complex streams and just having a strong processor with overloaded RAM might not give you perfect results at times. it is also required a well maintained system which is defraged consistently and keep good amount of free disc space. also if any high memory/CPU consuming app. is running is background, must get rid of it. I think it will take some time for hardware and software support to b strong enough.
thanks
Daniel
As has been mentioned, AVCHD is tough. Unlike DV-AVI, it uses the CPU (extensively), RAM and the system's I/O (hard disks and controller, basically). If any one of these is weak, playback will take a major hit. Most other formats rely on the I/O most heavily, but this one, you need ''beef'' in all quarters.
Even with a Quad-core, and 4GB's RAM, if one is working from, say a single HDD, they STILL may not get good playback. Multiple 72k RPM physical disks, setup properly with a good controller (SATA II with multiple chips is good), will also help. Having the media on a RAID (setting depends on what one wants from a RAID, and the number of disk in the array) will likely help, also.
Unfortunately, AVCHD is being touted as a ''consumer'' format. However, the smooth editing of it requires more than a ''consumer'' system, or a workaround. That is a big difference and a big ''gotcha'' for many.
When I make the move to HD capture and editing, it will be with dual Quad-cores, 16GB RAM (64-bit OS, probably Win7), and tons of HDD's with media on a RAID 50 controller card. Not an inexpensive system, to be sure, but one that will easily handle all forms of HD material.
Hunt
I'm with Michael! I have a more powerful PC and am trying out PE7 for editing 1920x1080i 25 PAL. I have just posted a problem on the forum https://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7aa93/14
It seems that AVCHD is not something that can be edited even on a high end PC, at least with PE7. Please tell me I'm wrong!
I can edit AVCHD on a low end computer using PRE7. The limitation is that I can load only about 20 minutes of it on the timeline and I can only use transitions that are simple.
With my Quad core PE7 will start to struggle on projects of an hour. This is generally not a problem for me as most of my projects are 30 minutes or less. For these projects PE7 works flawlessly with even heavy effects.
I had a quad core (QX6700) system with an Asus P5NE-SLI motherboard, and it would not edit 1920x1080 AVCHD clips smoothly. I upgraded to a newer core-i7 CPU and motherboard/memory and now it edits fine. But even with a Quad Core Core2 series processor, my older computer, which was still pretty fast, could not edit 1920x1080 AVCHD clips smoothly. It would handle 1440x1080 AVCHD clips fine, but would often slow to a slideshow with the 1920x1080 clips.
So you do need a fairly fast processor when editing AVCHD clips, even an older quad core might not be enough.
My problem is that the play back after importing into PE7 is jerky and therefore impossible to edit. Yet I have loaded the same footage in Studio 12 and the HD Writer program provided with the camera and playback and edit is fine in both those programs. I have also tried it on another computer and got the same result. This seems very strange!
I am comfortable with PE7 and love its usability and would really like to be able to advance to editing in hi def - previously I have been converting the AVCHD to SD mpeg2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Jerky AVCHD Video in PE7
Adobe states you must have a quad core processor with 4 gig of ram to edit AVCHD. I have an i7 processor with 6 gig of ram and when I edit AVCHD videos the sound cuts out and the time line doesn't show all the video frames. I also have a 512 meg video card. I feel sorry for those with less power as it is probably painfull to edit AVCHD.
Jerky AVCHD Video in PE7
Thanks Paul. These specs from Adobe are prohibitive for an entry level program. I cant fathom how the other 2 programs seem to handle things OK and Adobe doesnt.
Paul %26amp; Michael,
I have been having the same problem that Michael describes. After reading Paul's post, I just went back to Adobe specifications page and it states that a dual core processor and 2 GB ram are required for AVCHD. Paul, where did you get the information on quad core and 4 gig ram? I am running a dual core 2.5GHz with 4 gig ram and it is impossible to edit AVCHD because of the jerky display.
Ron, Sorry I was looking at the faqs in this forum instead of the official spec requirements. http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
I did though try to run the app on a dual core laptop and it was just too jerky which is why I got a new computer. Some people though may have not have that issue. It may be the video drivers...
I think the recommendations in are FAQs are much more ''real world'' than Adobe's minimums, by the way, Ron.
The challenge is that Premiere Elements edits hi-def in its native video rather than with an intermediary codec.
Did you see Robert's method for tricking Premiere Elements into proxy editing? it's in the FAQs at the top of this forum.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b726ee
Also, there is software that will convert AVCHD to less intensive, traditional HDV.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b78d01
Thank you both for your imput.
Hi All,
AVCHD editing is a tough job for every software. AVCHD files are very complex streams and just having a strong processor with overloaded RAM might not give you perfect results at times. it is also required a well maintained system which is defraged consistently and keep good amount of free disc space. also if any high memory/CPU consuming app. is running is background, must get rid of it. I think it will take some time for hardware and software support to b strong enough.
thanks
Daniel
As has been mentioned, AVCHD is tough. Unlike DV-AVI, it uses the CPU (extensively), RAM and the system's I/O (hard disks and controller, basically). If any one of these is weak, playback will take a major hit. Most other formats rely on the I/O most heavily, but this one, you need ''beef'' in all quarters.
Even with a Quad-core, and 4GB's RAM, if one is working from, say a single HDD, they STILL may not get good playback. Multiple 72k RPM physical disks, setup properly with a good controller (SATA II with multiple chips is good), will also help. Having the media on a RAID (setting depends on what one wants from a RAID, and the number of disk in the array) will likely help, also.
Unfortunately, AVCHD is being touted as a ''consumer'' format. However, the smooth editing of it requires more than a ''consumer'' system, or a workaround. That is a big difference and a big ''gotcha'' for many.
When I make the move to HD capture and editing, it will be with dual Quad-cores, 16GB RAM (64-bit OS, probably Win7), and tons of HDD's with media on a RAID 50 controller card. Not an inexpensive system, to be sure, but one that will easily handle all forms of HD material.
Hunt
I'm with Michael! I have a more powerful PC and am trying out PE7 for editing 1920x1080i 25 PAL. I have just posted a problem on the forum https://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7aa93/14
It seems that AVCHD is not something that can be edited even on a high end PC, at least with PE7. Please tell me I'm wrong!
I can edit AVCHD on a low end computer using PRE7. The limitation is that I can load only about 20 minutes of it on the timeline and I can only use transitions that are simple.
With my Quad core PE7 will start to struggle on projects of an hour. This is generally not a problem for me as most of my projects are 30 minutes or less. For these projects PE7 works flawlessly with even heavy effects.
I had a quad core (QX6700) system with an Asus P5NE-SLI motherboard, and it would not edit 1920x1080 AVCHD clips smoothly. I upgraded to a newer core-i7 CPU and motherboard/memory and now it edits fine. But even with a Quad Core Core2 series processor, my older computer, which was still pretty fast, could not edit 1920x1080 AVCHD clips smoothly. It would handle 1440x1080 AVCHD clips fine, but would often slow to a slideshow with the 1920x1080 clips.
So you do need a fairly fast processor when editing AVCHD clips, even an older quad core might not be enough.
Import VHS via Pyro A/V Link
I have done this before, but with Premiere Elements 2.0. I have upgraded to Premiere Elements 7.0 (and Vista). I cannot get Elements 7 to recognize the firewire connection used by the Pyro A/V Link that I have attached to the machine. None of the options when I bring up the ''Get Media'' screen recognizes the VCR even if it is playing at the time.
The ability to import VHS tapes from a VHS player through the Pyro A/V Link is the reason I wanted to use Premiere Elements. It has worked in older versions of Windows (again with an older version of Elements), and I am completely befuddled what I am missing now ... I could easily not see anything, but the lack of a meaningful manual makes it hard to figure out.
Suggestions, steps, etc. will be greatly appreciated.
Import VHS via Pyro A/V Link
Does the Pyro come with any software, and have you checked with the Pyro maker to see what they say about Vista?
Have you tried http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html - register, if it works, to remove the watermark placed in the video frames
Import VHS via Pyro A/V Link
I don't recall any software shipping with the Pyro ... and I'm pretty good at keeping track of that sort of thing.
The ADS Technologies information on their website is very vague and hard to work through.
Never heard of ''scenalyzer'', and am not sure what that has to do with this particular issue.
Go to the scenalyzer web page and read... if it works on your computer, that would be one solution to your problem
Well, here's the problem -- Premiere 2.0 was able to read the input from the Pyro A/V, why isn't Premiere 7.0 able to? That's what I'm trying to work with, rather than having to get yet ANOTHER software package ... I shouldn't have to.
%26gt;upgraded to Premiere Elements 7.0
(and Vista)
and Vista means you are not comparing equals
I do understand that Windows XP and Vista are not equal (good lord am I aware of that!).
What I am trying to find out is if anyone has experience with this situation, and if they can provide details, if they can get this particular device to communicate properly, etc.
I am sorry if my communication on this is sounding frustrated (it is, but that is not your fault ...). I have spent a lot of money in the process of importing these VHS tapes to the machine so that I can preserve them, and it is frustrating to find that this is no longer working, when there is no apparent reason for it not to.
Ken, We have quite a few Pyro Link users at Muvipix.com
Don't know for sure if any of them have moved to Vista yet but it is worth asking ;)
Everything you wanted to know about Premiere Elements and more...
http://muvipix.com
Chuck --
Thanks. I will try to get over there in the next couple days. This week is shaping up to be rather hectic for me (figures) ... oh well.
Thanks.
I am having exactly the same problem - ADS worked fine in Premiere v4.
Trying to get ADS tech support to reply is like trying to get blood out of a stone! I had to reinstall everything (due to upgrading my motherboard)%26amp; WinXP SP3 Device Manager sees it + yellow tag %26amp; keeps trying to install software - of course it can't find any! Have sent Adobe Tech support a request, but that could take months since it is ''complementary'' support category, as I just upgraded Premiere from 4 to 7! Can't afford their ''pay for support or suffer'' strategy!
Am still persuing the problem %26amp; will post if %26amp; when I find the solution.
Bumpy
Peter,
You might want to post on www.muvipix.com. A lot of subscribers there use the Pyro and swear by it. There is a lot of experience there, that might prove helpful to you. I doubt that there are few problems, that they have not seen already.
Good luck,
Hunt
Thanks, I've done that. No go. The Pyro just isn't working, and I think it's a Vista/Firewall problem. Or something. I really can't tell.
The ability to import VHS tapes from a VHS player through the Pyro A/V Link is the reason I wanted to use Premiere Elements. It has worked in older versions of Windows (again with an older version of Elements), and I am completely befuddled what I am missing now ... I could easily not see anything, but the lack of a meaningful manual makes it hard to figure out.
Suggestions, steps, etc. will be greatly appreciated.
Import VHS via Pyro A/V Link
Does the Pyro come with any software, and have you checked with the Pyro maker to see what they say about Vista?
Have you tried http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html - register, if it works, to remove the watermark placed in the video frames
Import VHS via Pyro A/V Link
I don't recall any software shipping with the Pyro ... and I'm pretty good at keeping track of that sort of thing.
The ADS Technologies information on their website is very vague and hard to work through.
Never heard of ''scenalyzer'', and am not sure what that has to do with this particular issue.
Go to the scenalyzer web page and read... if it works on your computer, that would be one solution to your problem
Well, here's the problem -- Premiere 2.0 was able to read the input from the Pyro A/V, why isn't Premiere 7.0 able to? That's what I'm trying to work with, rather than having to get yet ANOTHER software package ... I shouldn't have to.
%26gt;upgraded to Premiere Elements 7.0
(and Vista)
and Vista means you are not comparing equals
I do understand that Windows XP and Vista are not equal (good lord am I aware of that!).
What I am trying to find out is if anyone has experience with this situation, and if they can provide details, if they can get this particular device to communicate properly, etc.
I am sorry if my communication on this is sounding frustrated (it is, but that is not your fault ...). I have spent a lot of money in the process of importing these VHS tapes to the machine so that I can preserve them, and it is frustrating to find that this is no longer working, when there is no apparent reason for it not to.
Ken, We have quite a few Pyro Link users at Muvipix.com
Don't know for sure if any of them have moved to Vista yet but it is worth asking ;)
Everything you wanted to know about Premiere Elements and more...
http://muvipix.com
Chuck --
Thanks. I will try to get over there in the next couple days. This week is shaping up to be rather hectic for me (figures) ... oh well.
Thanks.
I am having exactly the same problem - ADS worked fine in Premiere v4.
Trying to get ADS tech support to reply is like trying to get blood out of a stone! I had to reinstall everything (due to upgrading my motherboard)%26amp; WinXP SP3 Device Manager sees it + yellow tag %26amp; keeps trying to install software - of course it can't find any! Have sent Adobe Tech support a request, but that could take months since it is ''complementary'' support category, as I just upgraded Premiere from 4 to 7! Can't afford their ''pay for support or suffer'' strategy!
Am still persuing the problem %26amp; will post if %26amp; when I find the solution.
Bumpy
Peter,
You might want to post on www.muvipix.com. A lot of subscribers there use the Pyro and swear by it. There is a lot of experience there, that might prove helpful to you. I doubt that there are few problems, that they have not seen already.
Good luck,
Hunt
Thanks, I've done that. No go. The Pyro just isn't working, and I think it's a Vista/Firewall problem. Or something. I really can't tell.
Vista 64 bit
I am looking to buy a new PC and the Intel Core i7 processor looks attractive. This is sold by Dell with Vista 64 bit. I can't see any recent mention of 64 bit on the Adobe site. Does Adobe now support this? Does anyone have experience with Premiere Elements v7 running on Vista 64 bit?
Any advice appreciated.
Vista 64 bit
Technically, the program is not yet 64-bit compatible.
However, Vista will automatically run 32-bit programs (like Premiere Elements) in 32-bit compatibility mode. (XP must be set manually to do so.) There are two liabilities to this:
1) You won't be able to take full advantage of your 64-bit operating system, so the program will run on a limited amount of RAM (no more than 4 gig) and only at a 32-bit data flow;
2) Although many people have reported running the program well on 64-bit Vista, it's not without its quirks in compatibility mode, so your mileage may vary.
In short, it may still be a year or so too soon to buy a 64-bit system, unless you're using professional-level software (and even then...)
Vista 64 bit
And PE works horrible even in 32bit mode. Go with the 32 bit. Because with 64 bit in compatibility mode crashes and just stinks
You must work for a competing company.
I don't work for a competing company its just that the program runs horrible on a 64bit machine...
Disagree. I use vista 64 bit with PE 7, runs great.
With 4 GB of mem, 2 x 750 GB samsung spinpoint HDD, Intel Q9550 quad core, no problem running the application at all.
I second that disagreement! Pish, piffle and nonsense!!!!
I've been using PRE7 on an Intel Core i7 940 PC with Vista 64 for a couple of months now and it's been my best experience yet using Premiere in any flavour (and I've pretty much used them all).
I've not had a single crash or suffered from any comparability issues.
In fact, before I read through this thread I didn't think anything of running PRE7 on Vista 64!
The last project I edited on this PC had 5GB of native AVCHD footage on the timeline (that's about an hours worth of footage) and it worked a dream. The footage imported and conformed quickly and played very smoothly. Transitions, fades, audio tweaking were all handled with ease. Export of final project was quick too. Not a single blip.
This PC is also my main PC (i.e. it's not a dedicated video editing workstation) so it has things like Norton Internet Security 2009, Skype, Palm Hotsync, APC PowerChute, Copernic Desktop Search, TeamViewer and RollBack RX Pro sitting in the System Tray.
So my advice is ignore the naysayers and go get your Core i7 PC complete with Vista 64
Patrick
b PC: Intel Core i7 940 CPU, 6GB RAM, RADEON HD 4870 512MB, Vista 64 bit
b Camera: Sony HDR SR12 producing .MTS files (footage in full 1920x1080i HD)
I just purchased an Intel Core i7 from Dell last week with Vista 64 bit. Elements crashed about 30 times while I was editing my AVCHD videos. I made sure I saved after every edit after the first few crashes. I do like the program I just wish it didn't crash ever 10 minutes.
On an up to date, well maintained, optimized computer with ample hardware, it won't, Paul. (Even a brand new computer is several months out of date and very much in need of maintenance -- particularly a Vista machine. And Windows Update is only a small portion of the system's necessary updates and maintenance.)
I am pretty sure I have the latest drivers on my computer. I was editing 16 gig of AVCHD Video clips. I was adding sound tracks using MP3, WMA, and M4A. It would crash every 10 minutes. I would also not keep up with the timeline displays and the audio would cut out every few seconds. One it was burned to DVD there were no issues with it playing on my DVD player. It was really frustrating though that it crash as much as it did. I haven't had any other program crash on me.
16 gig of AVCHD is an aweful lot of AVCHD to be working with. Did you try breaking it into smaller sub-projects.
Paul, I agree with Steve that even a brand new PC can be out of date and not optimized. It will be set up in a fairly standard way.
First off though could you tell us the spec of your new Dell PC. Also, what have you got loaded in the System Tray (inc ver no)?
I also agree with Paul LS - 16GB of native AVCHD footage is a HUGE amount of video to have on the timeline.
If you try and edit a smaller amount of AVCHD footage (say just 1 minutes worth) do you still get the same problems?
If the answer to the above question is ''yes'' then do you still have then same problems of you edit a moderate amount of AVI footage?
What camera did the AVCHD footage come from? Have you installed the drivers from the accompanying CD/DVD? Sometimes the camera drivers have CODECS bundled with them so it's worth installing the software off the CD.
In the meantime here's a list of things that I always do to a Windows PC to speed it up and run smoother. Some may seem banal and pointless but every little helps. No doubt other readers will have their top tips too.
b 1
Uninstall all unwanted software - most PC manufacturers are guilty of shipping PCs with heaps of unwanted and useless software installed so get rid of what you don't want. Declutter is the word of the day.
b 2
Optimize Windows visual settings - most of the visual stuff that Windows does is nice and pretty but doesn't serve any practical purpose. It just eats up resources so most of it can be turned off. I suggest that you disable as much as you can but here, as a guide, is what I've DISABLED on my Vista PC:
*Animate controls and elements inside windows
*Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing
*Fade or slide menus into view
*Fade or slide ToolTips into view
*Fade out menu items after clicking
*Show shadows under menus
*Slide open combo boxes
*Slide Taskbar buttons
*Smooth scroll list boxes
*Use a background image for each folder type
*Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop
To turn these off: Control Panel / System %26amp; Maintenance / System / Advanced System Settings / Performance / Settings button - Visual Effects tab - choose the Custom option and uncheck the ones you want.
b 3
Disable unwanted start up applications in MSCONFIG (Start Menu / Run - MSCONFIG) then click on the Startup tab. Most software has a habit of putting a line or two in the Startup section even if it's a little program that will check for updates every now and again. Uncheck the applications that you know you don't use or want running at startup. I do though strongly suggest that you Google anything that you don't instantly recognize!
b 4
Turn off Sounds: sounds can really distract your PC from doing what you want! Control Panel / Hardware and Sound / Sound / Change System Sounds - choose ''No Sounds''
b 5
Turn off the screen saver: again this can distract your PC and eat resources
b 6
Turn off Windows Auto Updates and set it to NOTIFY ONLY. That way you're in control of when and how you update your system. This principle should also apply to ANY software on your PC!
b 7
If you use 3rd party System Rollback software (e.g. Rollback RX Pro) then disable Windows System Restore
b 8
Keep them items in your System Tray to a minimum
b 9
In Premiere Elements turn off Auto Save as it will inevitably interrupt what you're doing - just remember to manually save your project as often as you can!!
b 10
I can strongly recommend installing a 2nd internal hard drive to store your video and other data. I always separate my data from the OS to minimize loss of data. If your PC won't boot and you've got all your data on your Drive C then it's a right faff to retrieve everything.
With a second internal HDD things run much smoother and you're less likely to lose something critical if your Drive C dies.
Premiere definatley likes your video being on a different disk to your OS!
Once you've physically installed the new internal HDD (don't skimp on the spec - get a minimum of 7,200rpm and a big buffer) and set it up in Windows (i.e. formatted it and assigned a Driver Letter) then locate your Users folder (mine is C:\Users\Patrick) to find your Documents, Favourites, Music and Pictures folders. For each one Right Click the item / Properties / Location / Move and choose a location on your 2nd HDD. I also have my OUTLOOK.PST on another drive.
Lastly, PC Pro magazine ran an excellent feature last year called
b ''80 expert Windows tips''
and it can be found here http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/176538/80-expert-windows-tips.html (you may have to register for their site to gain access to the article). I can thoroughly recommend going through each tip and consider what's useful for you.
Hope this helps and let us know how you get on along with the answers to the above questions.
Patrick
Sorry to have hijacked the tread...
Paul LS - I was making a DVD of my trip to Japan I wanted to output it all on to one DVD. So I didn't break it up it up into smaller projects. I wasn't sure how to bring them all together with various scene markers and sound tracks.
Patrick - I don't have room for another hard drive. I have 2-640 gig drives set up in a raid-1 array. I also have a 1 terabit external backup drive so I will not be losing any of my important videos/pictures.
The computer specs are
Studio XPS 435 Desktop: Intel Core i7-920 Processor (8MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 2.66GHz)
6 GB Tri-Channel DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz (6 DIMMs)
512MB ATI Radeon HD 4850
2 -640 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Single Drive: Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD)
19 in 1 Media Reader with Bluetooth
Vista Home Premium - 64 bit.
In the sys tray
Image Mixer camera monitor
Real Tech HD Audio manager
Windows sidebar
ATI Catalyst control center
The camera is a brand new Canon VIXIA HF10 set to 1920 x 1080,24p Cinema Mode(recorded at 60i)
I installed the camera software and it is the latest version. I had to use their software to copy download the videos as Elements didn't recognize the camera.
My project setting in Elements is AVCHD Full HD 1080i 30
I changed all the settings you recommended
Ok I saved my old project as a new one as to not mess it up. Now I can't get it to crash at all. This time I was doing all kinds of crazy things and not one crash..mmmmm Maybe it was a bad day or maybe those little tweaks to the operating system worked. Thanks for the help.
I do love the product and my DVD came out great. It didn't take that long to encode it or to burn it on 10 DVD's. Considering it was 16 gig of video compressed to 4.4 gig on the dvd.
Hi Paul H-M
Glad to read that you had a crash free day. Hopefully it was the tweaks that did the trick. Time will tell.
Looking through the spec of your PC it looks like a good set up. All good components. Interestingly enough the ATI Radeon HD 4850 got the RECOMMENDED award in the latest PC Pro magazine Labs Test of 20 graphics cards. It was only pipped by its big brother the HD 4870.
b However
, one thing that I'm concerned about in the spec is the RAID 1 array. Is that right or did you mean RAID 0? I ask because I think it might be a contributing factor to your crashes and it may also be slowing your shiny new highly spec'd PC down.
I'd also like to know how you've got your folders set up? i.e. where's the raw video footage, the project folders and the scratch disks? Reading your last post it seems that EVERYTHING is on the RAID 1 array and you just back up to the external unit.
If you have got everything (i.e. OS, Programs and data (docs, video, photos, etc) on your RAID 1 array then I don't think that'll work very well and it will be contributing to your crashes. RAID 1 has quite a high overhead in terms of data throughput because it has a lot of work to do in order to mirror data in realtime.
b This will slow your PC down.
In simple terms the PC can only work at the speed of the slowest item - so even if you've got a really fast CPU, blinding RAM and a lightening graphics card then they're going to be idle quite a lot of the time while they're waiting for the disks to feed them. It's all a question of balance and minimising bottle-necks.
b The way that you've got your disks set up will have a massive impact on the overall performance of your PC irrespective of the rest of the spec. The wrong set up can cause an otherwise highly spec'd PC to run like a 1 legged dog!
Even if you meant RAID 0 I still don't think that's the best set up because whilst the data throughput is faster, if one disk crashes then you risk losing EVERYTHING if just one of the disks fails. And unless you're backing up to your external unit on a daily basis then the risk of losing something vital is quite high.
Certainly mixing the OS and data on RAID 0 or RAID 1 is, I believe, a mistake. In both of these set ups, generally speaking, both disks are working at the same time i.e. if you need to access the disks to retrieve or store something then both disks will be working at the same time. It's kinda putting all your eggs in one basket.
Now, if Dell were offering a PC with a single disk as Drive C and then 2 more disks in a RAID 0 array for data then that would be a totally different story.
If you're limited to just 2 disks then I personally think that it's better not to have them in an array and just have them as seperate disks. Have one as the System disk (C:) with just the OS and Programs and the other (D:) as Data for raw video footage, Premiere editing projects, OUTLOOK.PST, Desktop, Favourites, My Documents, Photos, etc.
Then, on a WEEKLY basis (or more often if you install lots of stuff) you make an image of your Drive C to your external backup unit and on a NIGHTLY basis you REPILICATE your Drive D to your external unit (also include in the replication any stuff on Drive C that changes on a regular basis - look through the C:\ProgramData folder).
For disk imaging I use Rollback RX Pro. The main feature of which is, as the name suggests, a PC rollback utility. A bit like Windows Restore only that Rollback works! Unlike Windows Restore, Rollback DOES NOT rely on Windows booting up to resolve problems. It's also the best Uninstall Utility ever! I always take a snapshot prior to installing something or running an update (learnt by bad experiences!) and if it all goes horribly wrong or I don't like the software then I just rollback so all traces of it are gone. Rollback's Disk / Partition imagaging is very solid (http://www.horizondatasys.com/169614.ihtml). BTW you can also browse images as another drive in an explorer window - you can then copy files in the usual manner from the image to anywhere you like. Rollback RX Pro is ALWAYS the first piece of software that I install on any PC (no, I don't work for them!).
For replication I use SmartSync Pro (www.smartsync.com) to replicate data on a nightly basis from my PC to an external QNAP NAS.
So, in this scenario, if your Drive C refuses to load Windows then you Rollback as far as you need to. If Drive C dies then just revert back to the last image you've got on your external unit and you've not lost any data. If, however, your Drive D fails then you've got an up to date copy of all your data on your external unit.
If I were you then I'd get some other opinions on the disk set up but in the meantime I'd like to understand how your folder structure is set up.
Sorry if I've harped on a bit on this but I believe that it's important and will impact the performance of your PC.
Anyway, I hope that this is food for thought.
Patrick
Patrick,
It is raid-1. It may decrease the write time slightly but it also speeds up the read time as it can read from both drives at once. So it grabs data from different sectors on both drives. So playing back the video will be faster. This was a refurbished unit so I didn't spec it out myself but I saved $600 off the new price so got a great computer for under a grand. I may look into removing the raid if I continue to have issues.
We just got the external drive a few days ago. My wifes hardrive in her laptop crashed(she got lucky had a backup from the previous day) and we were backing her's up to a 140 gig usb drive. I got her a 500 gig drive instead of just replacing the 160 gig one she had so that is why we purchased the tarabyte backup. Plus that was on sale for $100.. drives are getting so cheap now.
All the files are stored on my c: drive same as the operating system.
The soundtracks are stored in user/music
The raw videos are stored in user/video
The created adobe files are in /user/documents/adobe/premiere elements/7.0
The cache files are in /user/documents/adobe/premiere elements/7.0/Media Cache Files
I have similar problems on a new similar system that I have just put together. I have downloaded the trial of PE7 to compare with other software. Video playback on editing is smooth but sound keeps disappearing until I have rendered the timeline. The clips play back perfectly using Panasonic's HD Writer, either individually or sequentially.
The system is: Core i7 920 on ASUS P6T Deluxe with 3Gb 1333Mhz Crucial memory, ATI Sapphire 4850 512Mb, 2 separate (not RAID) 1Tb Samsung 7200 rpm SATA300 drives with 32Mb buffer, on board sound. Vista Ultimate 32 bit (PE7 does not support 64 bit). OS %26amp; PE7 on C drive, Clips and project files on 2nd hard drive. Drivers installed from camera CD as needed for camera USB recognition.
I have also had a number of crashes while trying things out with only 6 or less clips on the timeline. AVCHD clips (1920x1080i 25 PAL) were imported onto the data hard drive from my Panasonic HDC HS100 using HD Writer and then brought into PE7 by directing to the appropriate directory. Fewer than 100 clips of the 1500 on the HD were referenced into PE7. I initially tried to reference (conform?) all 1500 clips but cancelled when the referencing seemed to freeze.
The new PC has been allowed to update all that is available from Microsoft Update and the only significant additional software is AVG anti-virus. I have not specifically updated ATI or Sound drivers.
Vegas Platinum Pro 9 trial seems more stable and has no sound problems but PE7 seems to offer a more intuitive interface and more facility. Also, Vegas seems only to use 4 cores.
Would appreciate any timely advice. I spec'ed the new PC to be better than PE7 requirements and performance is disappointing.
In the past on other PC's I have used Pinnacle (up to Studio V8 ) and been very disillusioned by persistent crashes on machines which exceeded their specifications.
I have 29 days left to solve the issues if I am to buy PE7
I think we've got too many people asking for help in the same thread, guys. It's impossible to address any one person or issue without a lot of confusion and crosstalk.
Similar symptoms aren't always similar problems and often don't require the same solutions.
Is there any chance any of you who want a response can be persuaded to start your own threads?
Thanks for all comments.Interesting reading!
I actually decided to stick with a 32bit machine for now. Not worth the risk of additional problems, I thought.
Just wanted to say that the comments by 'Patrick Haigh-Gannon' were an excellent read.
I was not aware of Rollback RX as I'm a Acronis TrueImage user. So I surfed the Rollback website and this recovery application looks very kool.
It looks like the latest version allows for saving Snapshots to external drives (USB), it also has recovery to any Snapshot and then automagically restore just the data files from your most recent Snapshot (which is extremely kool).
Will download the trial shortly and take it for a spin...
Thanx...
Any advice appreciated.
Vista 64 bit
Technically, the program is not yet 64-bit compatible.
However, Vista will automatically run 32-bit programs (like Premiere Elements) in 32-bit compatibility mode. (XP must be set manually to do so.) There are two liabilities to this:
1) You won't be able to take full advantage of your 64-bit operating system, so the program will run on a limited amount of RAM (no more than 4 gig) and only at a 32-bit data flow;
2) Although many people have reported running the program well on 64-bit Vista, it's not without its quirks in compatibility mode, so your mileage may vary.
In short, it may still be a year or so too soon to buy a 64-bit system, unless you're using professional-level software (and even then...)
Vista 64 bit
And PE works horrible even in 32bit mode. Go with the 32 bit. Because with 64 bit in compatibility mode crashes and just stinks
You must work for a competing company.
I don't work for a competing company its just that the program runs horrible on a 64bit machine...
Disagree. I use vista 64 bit with PE 7, runs great.
With 4 GB of mem, 2 x 750 GB samsung spinpoint HDD, Intel Q9550 quad core, no problem running the application at all.
I second that disagreement! Pish, piffle and nonsense!!!!
I've been using PRE7 on an Intel Core i7 940 PC with Vista 64 for a couple of months now and it's been my best experience yet using Premiere in any flavour (and I've pretty much used them all).
I've not had a single crash or suffered from any comparability issues.
In fact, before I read through this thread I didn't think anything of running PRE7 on Vista 64!
The last project I edited on this PC had 5GB of native AVCHD footage on the timeline (that's about an hours worth of footage) and it worked a dream. The footage imported and conformed quickly and played very smoothly. Transitions, fades, audio tweaking were all handled with ease. Export of final project was quick too. Not a single blip.
This PC is also my main PC (i.e. it's not a dedicated video editing workstation) so it has things like Norton Internet Security 2009, Skype, Palm Hotsync, APC PowerChute, Copernic Desktop Search, TeamViewer and RollBack RX Pro sitting in the System Tray.
So my advice is ignore the naysayers and go get your Core i7 PC complete with Vista 64
Patrick
b PC: Intel Core i7 940 CPU, 6GB RAM, RADEON HD 4870 512MB, Vista 64 bit
b Camera: Sony HDR SR12 producing .MTS files (footage in full 1920x1080i HD)
I just purchased an Intel Core i7 from Dell last week with Vista 64 bit. Elements crashed about 30 times while I was editing my AVCHD videos. I made sure I saved after every edit after the first few crashes. I do like the program I just wish it didn't crash ever 10 minutes.
On an up to date, well maintained, optimized computer with ample hardware, it won't, Paul. (Even a brand new computer is several months out of date and very much in need of maintenance -- particularly a Vista machine. And Windows Update is only a small portion of the system's necessary updates and maintenance.)
I am pretty sure I have the latest drivers on my computer. I was editing 16 gig of AVCHD Video clips. I was adding sound tracks using MP3, WMA, and M4A. It would crash every 10 minutes. I would also not keep up with the timeline displays and the audio would cut out every few seconds. One it was burned to DVD there were no issues with it playing on my DVD player. It was really frustrating though that it crash as much as it did. I haven't had any other program crash on me.
16 gig of AVCHD is an aweful lot of AVCHD to be working with. Did you try breaking it into smaller sub-projects.
Paul, I agree with Steve that even a brand new PC can be out of date and not optimized. It will be set up in a fairly standard way.
First off though could you tell us the spec of your new Dell PC. Also, what have you got loaded in the System Tray (inc ver no)?
I also agree with Paul LS - 16GB of native AVCHD footage is a HUGE amount of video to have on the timeline.
If you try and edit a smaller amount of AVCHD footage (say just 1 minutes worth) do you still get the same problems?
If the answer to the above question is ''yes'' then do you still have then same problems of you edit a moderate amount of AVI footage?
What camera did the AVCHD footage come from? Have you installed the drivers from the accompanying CD/DVD? Sometimes the camera drivers have CODECS bundled with them so it's worth installing the software off the CD.
In the meantime here's a list of things that I always do to a Windows PC to speed it up and run smoother. Some may seem banal and pointless but every little helps. No doubt other readers will have their top tips too.
b 1
Uninstall all unwanted software - most PC manufacturers are guilty of shipping PCs with heaps of unwanted and useless software installed so get rid of what you don't want. Declutter is the word of the day.
b 2
Optimize Windows visual settings - most of the visual stuff that Windows does is nice and pretty but doesn't serve any practical purpose. It just eats up resources so most of it can be turned off. I suggest that you disable as much as you can but here, as a guide, is what I've DISABLED on my Vista PC:
*Animate controls and elements inside windows
*Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing
*Fade or slide menus into view
*Fade or slide ToolTips into view
*Fade out menu items after clicking
*Show shadows under menus
*Slide open combo boxes
*Slide Taskbar buttons
*Smooth scroll list boxes
*Use a background image for each folder type
*Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop
To turn these off: Control Panel / System %26amp; Maintenance / System / Advanced System Settings / Performance / Settings button - Visual Effects tab - choose the Custom option and uncheck the ones you want.
b 3
Disable unwanted start up applications in MSCONFIG (Start Menu / Run - MSCONFIG) then click on the Startup tab. Most software has a habit of putting a line or two in the Startup section even if it's a little program that will check for updates every now and again. Uncheck the applications that you know you don't use or want running at startup. I do though strongly suggest that you Google anything that you don't instantly recognize!
b 4
Turn off Sounds: sounds can really distract your PC from doing what you want! Control Panel / Hardware and Sound / Sound / Change System Sounds - choose ''No Sounds''
b 5
Turn off the screen saver: again this can distract your PC and eat resources
b 6
Turn off Windows Auto Updates and set it to NOTIFY ONLY. That way you're in control of when and how you update your system. This principle should also apply to ANY software on your PC!
b 7
If you use 3rd party System Rollback software (e.g. Rollback RX Pro) then disable Windows System Restore
b 8
Keep them items in your System Tray to a minimum
b 9
In Premiere Elements turn off Auto Save as it will inevitably interrupt what you're doing - just remember to manually save your project as often as you can!!
b 10
I can strongly recommend installing a 2nd internal hard drive to store your video and other data. I always separate my data from the OS to minimize loss of data. If your PC won't boot and you've got all your data on your Drive C then it's a right faff to retrieve everything.
With a second internal HDD things run much smoother and you're less likely to lose something critical if your Drive C dies.
Premiere definatley likes your video being on a different disk to your OS!
Once you've physically installed the new internal HDD (don't skimp on the spec - get a minimum of 7,200rpm and a big buffer) and set it up in Windows (i.e. formatted it and assigned a Driver Letter) then locate your Users folder (mine is C:\Users\Patrick) to find your Documents, Favourites, Music and Pictures folders. For each one Right Click the item / Properties / Location / Move and choose a location on your 2nd HDD. I also have my OUTLOOK.PST on another drive.
Lastly, PC Pro magazine ran an excellent feature last year called
b ''80 expert Windows tips''
and it can be found here http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/176538/80-expert-windows-tips.html (you may have to register for their site to gain access to the article). I can thoroughly recommend going through each tip and consider what's useful for you.
Hope this helps and let us know how you get on along with the answers to the above questions.
Patrick
Sorry to have hijacked the tread...
Paul LS - I was making a DVD of my trip to Japan I wanted to output it all on to one DVD. So I didn't break it up it up into smaller projects. I wasn't sure how to bring them all together with various scene markers and sound tracks.
Patrick - I don't have room for another hard drive. I have 2-640 gig drives set up in a raid-1 array. I also have a 1 terabit external backup drive so I will not be losing any of my important videos/pictures.
The computer specs are
Studio XPS 435 Desktop: Intel Core i7-920 Processor (8MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 2.66GHz)
6 GB Tri-Channel DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz (6 DIMMs)
512MB ATI Radeon HD 4850
2 -640 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
Single Drive: Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD)
19 in 1 Media Reader with Bluetooth
Vista Home Premium - 64 bit.
In the sys tray
Image Mixer camera monitor
Real Tech HD Audio manager
Windows sidebar
ATI Catalyst control center
The camera is a brand new Canon VIXIA HF10 set to 1920 x 1080,24p Cinema Mode(recorded at 60i)
I installed the camera software and it is the latest version. I had to use their software to copy download the videos as Elements didn't recognize the camera.
My project setting in Elements is AVCHD Full HD 1080i 30
I changed all the settings you recommended
Ok I saved my old project as a new one as to not mess it up. Now I can't get it to crash at all. This time I was doing all kinds of crazy things and not one crash..mmmmm Maybe it was a bad day or maybe those little tweaks to the operating system worked. Thanks for the help.
I do love the product and my DVD came out great. It didn't take that long to encode it or to burn it on 10 DVD's. Considering it was 16 gig of video compressed to 4.4 gig on the dvd.
Hi Paul H-M
Glad to read that you had a crash free day. Hopefully it was the tweaks that did the trick. Time will tell.
Looking through the spec of your PC it looks like a good set up. All good components. Interestingly enough the ATI Radeon HD 4850 got the RECOMMENDED award in the latest PC Pro magazine Labs Test of 20 graphics cards. It was only pipped by its big brother the HD 4870.
b However
, one thing that I'm concerned about in the spec is the RAID 1 array. Is that right or did you mean RAID 0? I ask because I think it might be a contributing factor to your crashes and it may also be slowing your shiny new highly spec'd PC down.
I'd also like to know how you've got your folders set up? i.e. where's the raw video footage, the project folders and the scratch disks? Reading your last post it seems that EVERYTHING is on the RAID 1 array and you just back up to the external unit.
If you have got everything (i.e. OS, Programs and data (docs, video, photos, etc) on your RAID 1 array then I don't think that'll work very well and it will be contributing to your crashes. RAID 1 has quite a high overhead in terms of data throughput because it has a lot of work to do in order to mirror data in realtime.
b This will slow your PC down.
In simple terms the PC can only work at the speed of the slowest item - so even if you've got a really fast CPU, blinding RAM and a lightening graphics card then they're going to be idle quite a lot of the time while they're waiting for the disks to feed them. It's all a question of balance and minimising bottle-necks.
b The way that you've got your disks set up will have a massive impact on the overall performance of your PC irrespective of the rest of the spec. The wrong set up can cause an otherwise highly spec'd PC to run like a 1 legged dog!
Even if you meant RAID 0 I still don't think that's the best set up because whilst the data throughput is faster, if one disk crashes then you risk losing EVERYTHING if just one of the disks fails. And unless you're backing up to your external unit on a daily basis then the risk of losing something vital is quite high.
Certainly mixing the OS and data on RAID 0 or RAID 1 is, I believe, a mistake. In both of these set ups, generally speaking, both disks are working at the same time i.e. if you need to access the disks to retrieve or store something then both disks will be working at the same time. It's kinda putting all your eggs in one basket.
Now, if Dell were offering a PC with a single disk as Drive C and then 2 more disks in a RAID 0 array for data then that would be a totally different story.
If you're limited to just 2 disks then I personally think that it's better not to have them in an array and just have them as seperate disks. Have one as the System disk (C:) with just the OS and Programs and the other (D:) as Data for raw video footage, Premiere editing projects, OUTLOOK.PST, Desktop, Favourites, My Documents, Photos, etc.
Then, on a WEEKLY basis (or more often if you install lots of stuff) you make an image of your Drive C to your external backup unit and on a NIGHTLY basis you REPILICATE your Drive D to your external unit (also include in the replication any stuff on Drive C that changes on a regular basis - look through the C:\ProgramData folder).
For disk imaging I use Rollback RX Pro. The main feature of which is, as the name suggests, a PC rollback utility. A bit like Windows Restore only that Rollback works! Unlike Windows Restore, Rollback DOES NOT rely on Windows booting up to resolve problems. It's also the best Uninstall Utility ever! I always take a snapshot prior to installing something or running an update (learnt by bad experiences!) and if it all goes horribly wrong or I don't like the software then I just rollback so all traces of it are gone. Rollback's Disk / Partition imagaging is very solid (http://www.horizondatasys.com/169614.ihtml). BTW you can also browse images as another drive in an explorer window - you can then copy files in the usual manner from the image to anywhere you like. Rollback RX Pro is ALWAYS the first piece of software that I install on any PC (no, I don't work for them!).
For replication I use SmartSync Pro (www.smartsync.com) to replicate data on a nightly basis from my PC to an external QNAP NAS.
So, in this scenario, if your Drive C refuses to load Windows then you Rollback as far as you need to. If Drive C dies then just revert back to the last image you've got on your external unit and you've not lost any data. If, however, your Drive D fails then you've got an up to date copy of all your data on your external unit.
If I were you then I'd get some other opinions on the disk set up but in the meantime I'd like to understand how your folder structure is set up.
Sorry if I've harped on a bit on this but I believe that it's important and will impact the performance of your PC.
Anyway, I hope that this is food for thought.
Patrick
Patrick,
It is raid-1. It may decrease the write time slightly but it also speeds up the read time as it can read from both drives at once. So it grabs data from different sectors on both drives. So playing back the video will be faster. This was a refurbished unit so I didn't spec it out myself but I saved $600 off the new price so got a great computer for under a grand. I may look into removing the raid if I continue to have issues.
We just got the external drive a few days ago. My wifes hardrive in her laptop crashed(she got lucky had a backup from the previous day) and we were backing her's up to a 140 gig usb drive. I got her a 500 gig drive instead of just replacing the 160 gig one she had so that is why we purchased the tarabyte backup. Plus that was on sale for $100.. drives are getting so cheap now.
All the files are stored on my c: drive same as the operating system.
The soundtracks are stored in user/music
The raw videos are stored in user/video
The created adobe files are in /user/documents/adobe/premiere elements/7.0
The cache files are in /user/documents/adobe/premiere elements/7.0/Media Cache Files
I have similar problems on a new similar system that I have just put together. I have downloaded the trial of PE7 to compare with other software. Video playback on editing is smooth but sound keeps disappearing until I have rendered the timeline. The clips play back perfectly using Panasonic's HD Writer, either individually or sequentially.
The system is: Core i7 920 on ASUS P6T Deluxe with 3Gb 1333Mhz Crucial memory, ATI Sapphire 4850 512Mb, 2 separate (not RAID) 1Tb Samsung 7200 rpm SATA300 drives with 32Mb buffer, on board sound. Vista Ultimate 32 bit (PE7 does not support 64 bit). OS %26amp; PE7 on C drive, Clips and project files on 2nd hard drive. Drivers installed from camera CD as needed for camera USB recognition.
I have also had a number of crashes while trying things out with only 6 or less clips on the timeline. AVCHD clips (1920x1080i 25 PAL) were imported onto the data hard drive from my Panasonic HDC HS100 using HD Writer and then brought into PE7 by directing to the appropriate directory. Fewer than 100 clips of the 1500 on the HD were referenced into PE7. I initially tried to reference (conform?) all 1500 clips but cancelled when the referencing seemed to freeze.
The new PC has been allowed to update all that is available from Microsoft Update and the only significant additional software is AVG anti-virus. I have not specifically updated ATI or Sound drivers.
Vegas Platinum Pro 9 trial seems more stable and has no sound problems but PE7 seems to offer a more intuitive interface and more facility. Also, Vegas seems only to use 4 cores.
Would appreciate any timely advice. I spec'ed the new PC to be better than PE7 requirements and performance is disappointing.
In the past on other PC's I have used Pinnacle (up to Studio V8 ) and been very disillusioned by persistent crashes on machines which exceeded their specifications.
I have 29 days left to solve the issues if I am to buy PE7
I think we've got too many people asking for help in the same thread, guys. It's impossible to address any one person or issue without a lot of confusion and crosstalk.
Similar symptoms aren't always similar problems and often don't require the same solutions.
Is there any chance any of you who want a response can be persuaded to start your own threads?
Thanks for all comments.Interesting reading!
I actually decided to stick with a 32bit machine for now. Not worth the risk of additional problems, I thought.
Just wanted to say that the comments by 'Patrick Haigh-Gannon' were an excellent read.
I was not aware of Rollback RX as I'm a Acronis TrueImage user. So I surfed the Rollback website and this recovery application looks very kool.
It looks like the latest version allows for saving Snapshots to external drives (USB), it also has recovery to any Snapshot and then automagically restore just the data files from your most recent Snapshot (which is extremely kool).
Will download the trial shortly and take it for a spin...
Thanx...
Adobe Premiere Elements on the hp mini...
Hi,
Because of its low resolution of 1024 by 576 will this work on a external monitor with a resolution of 1280 by 1024?
Thank You!
Chris
Adobe Premiere Elements on the hp mini...
I'm not sure what you're asking, Chris.
What is the ''this'' you're referring to in ''will this work on a external monitor''?
Are you talking about whether the program will work on an external monitor or the laptop?
In any event, this is really a pretty minimal computer, and you don't likely have enough power or hard drive space to edit video with Premiere Elements. This laptop is much more for basic functions like word processing and e-mail.
Adobe Premiere Elements on the hp mini...
Hi what I'm asking is if, I know the program will work because it is above the limits, but the resolution is 1024 by 564. What I wanted to know is if Premiere Elements 3.0 will work on an external monitor set to 1280 by 1024? I have asked before if it will work on an 1024 by 600 screen and you said no so that why I was asking about an external set to 1280 by 1024. Thank You!
Please reply asap. Thank You.
And also..this version is not that minimal like the mini 1000 or 2133. It has a 160 gig drive and also it has a 1.6 ghz Atom Processor that does good on the video processing and editing function.
When I say version I mean the Mini 2140....
As I said in my first post, this machine is built for very basic office functions and internet surfing. It's not designed to edit video, and it certainly lacks the necessary resources, per the FAQs at the top of this forum. (Please note our recommend specs, not Adobe's minimums.)
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
Im not using pe7 im using pe3
The system requirements are virtually the same. That little laptop just doesn't have the power to run a program like Premiere Elements.
But you're welcome to download the free trial from Adobe site and give it a test drive.
Ok. Is the PE7 different like alot different than PE3? And do you think my laptop that I have now will work good with PE7? It has a 2.0 ghz Core 2 Duo with Centrino Processing Technology with a Nividia 7100 graphics card and vista ultimate 64 bit. And has 2 gigs of memory. Do you think PE7 will work well?
It also has a 17inch screen. Its an HP.
Why not download the trial and see if it works on your Core 2, Chris?
(Though, if you're using Vista, that hardware is at the lower end of the program's system requirements -- depending on what you're using as source video and what kind of camcorder it's coming from. Also, because this program requires a lot of screen space, you'll likely find a 17'' monitor may not hold the entire interface, and either some features may be hidden or you'll do a lot of scrolling through things to see all the options.)
The FAQs at the top of our forum list our recommended specs. Be sure to see our specs, not the Adobe minimums.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
Because of its low resolution of 1024 by 576 will this work on a external monitor with a resolution of 1280 by 1024?
Thank You!
Chris
Adobe Premiere Elements on the hp mini...
I'm not sure what you're asking, Chris.
What is the ''this'' you're referring to in ''will this work on a external monitor''?
Are you talking about whether the program will work on an external monitor or the laptop?
In any event, this is really a pretty minimal computer, and you don't likely have enough power or hard drive space to edit video with Premiere Elements. This laptop is much more for basic functions like word processing and e-mail.
Adobe Premiere Elements on the hp mini...
Hi what I'm asking is if, I know the program will work because it is above the limits, but the resolution is 1024 by 564. What I wanted to know is if Premiere Elements 3.0 will work on an external monitor set to 1280 by 1024? I have asked before if it will work on an 1024 by 600 screen and you said no so that why I was asking about an external set to 1280 by 1024. Thank You!
Please reply asap. Thank You.
And also..this version is not that minimal like the mini 1000 or 2133. It has a 160 gig drive and also it has a 1.6 ghz Atom Processor that does good on the video processing and editing function.
When I say version I mean the Mini 2140....
As I said in my first post, this machine is built for very basic office functions and internet surfing. It's not designed to edit video, and it certainly lacks the necessary resources, per the FAQs at the top of this forum. (Please note our recommend specs, not Adobe's minimums.)
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
Im not using pe7 im using pe3
The system requirements are virtually the same. That little laptop just doesn't have the power to run a program like Premiere Elements.
But you're welcome to download the free trial from Adobe site and give it a test drive.
Ok. Is the PE7 different like alot different than PE3? And do you think my laptop that I have now will work good with PE7? It has a 2.0 ghz Core 2 Duo with Centrino Processing Technology with a Nividia 7100 graphics card and vista ultimate 64 bit. And has 2 gigs of memory. Do you think PE7 will work well?
It also has a 17inch screen. Its an HP.
Why not download the trial and see if it works on your Core 2, Chris?
(Though, if you're using Vista, that hardware is at the lower end of the program's system requirements -- depending on what you're using as source video and what kind of camcorder it's coming from. Also, because this program requires a lot of screen space, you'll likely find a 17'' monitor may not hold the entire interface, and either some features may be hidden or you'll do a lot of scrolling through things to see all the options.)
The FAQs at the top of our forum list our recommended specs. Be sure to see our specs, not the Adobe minimums.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b699a8/8
run time error when capturing from...
Currently I have only installed the trial version of Premiere Elements 7 to insure it is what I want before I buy it. It is almost perfect except for one problem.
Whenever I connect my digital video camera (which is panasonic) and click to capture from DV a sign comes up to say there is a runtime error and the program has to terminate. Then when I click ok PE7 shuts down.
Any ideas? Thanks!! I would love to know that it works before I buy it.
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Steve,
OK, I slept in and have only had one cup of coffee, but I cannot find Kate's system specs. anywhere. How did you know?
Kate,
Runtime errors are usually generated at the OS level. They most often stem from a problem with the Runtime.dll in Windows. Outside forces can trigger them, but so can internal OS forces. Though mainly from P-Pro, some of these issues might help you troubleshoot your problem:
http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=runtime%26amp;go=1
There are several discussions, so you will have some reading in front of you. You should get some ideas about where to start, and then others can possibly help you here.
Good luck,
Hunt
Maybe I didn't have enough coffee, Hunt! I confused two postings -- so I've removed my posting here. Thanks for catching it for me!
Kate, can you also tell us more about your computer?
What processor do you have, how much RAM and how much free, defragmented hard drive space is on your hard drive? Also, are you using Vista Sp1 or XP sp3? And have you ensured that you've installed the latest version of Quicktime?
Also, is your camcorder a miniDV or HDV camcorder connected via FireWire or is it another type of camcorder?
Kate,
Here is another Runtime article from MS:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;884538
Hunt
I am actually running windows XP with about 512MB of RAM and 8GB defragmented hard drive space.
My camcorder in miniDV.
Thank you.
Ouch! That's barely enough room for the program to function, Kate!
As a bare minimum, you want 1 gig of RAM (2 gig is ideal with XP) and at least 20-30 gigs of free, defragmented hard drive space. (In addition, you'll want at least 20 gigs of free space for every hour of video you plan to capture.)
8 gigs of free hard drive space is a sure recipe for disaster, especially when you're working with intensive programs like photo and video editors. You simply don't have enough room for the program to write scratch files.
Kate,
As Steve points out, your system is likely running out of disk space, just with the Page File (Windows' virtual memory, especially if it's set to dynamically manage). Add a full GB of RAM, and a second physical HDD, and you will likely eliminate many of the problems.
Hunt
But the program runs fine and quite smoothly unless I try to capture.. I'm currently backing up my hard drive then I'm going to download the hotfix suggested from microsoft and see how it goes.. I will let you know.
Thank you for all your help!
Kate, you don't have enough scratch disk space. It may seem to operate, but I guarantee you that any intensive function -- capture, creating titles, burning a DVD -- is going to lock up and shut down the program.
I am having the same problem, but my computer is a Dell 8400 with 3 GB RAM, and oodles of hard drive space, running Windows XP Pro SP-3 with all the latest updates installed. I have a Panasonic PV-GS500 camcorder. It connects via USB 2.0 to my computer. I previously used PE 4 and then 6 and was able to capture video from the camcorder via USB. PE 7 runs fine, for all other purposes, but when I try to capture video from the camcorder, as soon as I click on the DV Camcorder icon, the frame of the capture window appears but before it completely opens I immediately get the message: ''Premiere Elements Debug Event -- Premiere Elements has encountered an error [..\..\Src\Timecode.cpp-995].'' This is followed by an MS Visual C++ Runtime error, and Premiere Elements closes all windows and shuts down. I've tried following most of the suggested troubleshooting articles. I even uninstalled PE 7 and reinstalled it. I've made sure to set the Device Control to ''USB Class 1.0 Device Control''. Nothing has helped so far. I've had to resort to using the software (MotionDV Studio) that came with the Panasonic to at least capture my video, then import the resulting avi file into PE 7. That works, but this is NOT how Premiere Elements is supposed to work. It's advertised as working with USB, but they seem to have second thoughts about that AFTER you buy it and are then told it works better with Firewire. Since I don't have a Firewire connection, I'm frustrated, as you can tell. Anyone out there have a clue?
Doesn't sound like the same problem at all, Russ, otherwise we'd give you the same advice. So you'll get better response to your posting if you create your own thread.
Meantime, make sure you've updated to the latest Quicktime.
And DON'T capture over USB. That camcorder also have a connector for a FireWire cable, and if you connect to your computer over FireWire, and you've got the latest Quicktime, most likely it will resolve your issues.
Russ,
Before you initiate your separate post, you might wish to expand this thread. I posted several links to Runtime Errors earlier on. There might be something of use in those.
Also, I am not aware that any version of PE could Capture via USB.
Good luck,
Hunt
[Edit] I am partially correct, but partially incorrect. From the Adobe PE Readme:
i ''To connect DV camcorders via USB2 instead of FireWire you will need to verify your DV camcorder supports the USB Video Class 1.0 driver (sometimes advertised as USB over DV, DV Motion, USB 2.0 DV streaming). Most DV Camcorders do not currently support this driver. The older USB streaming format common on many DV camcorders is not able to send the video in the DV format over USB and is therefore not supported in Adobe Premiere Elements.''
Learn something new everyday.
In my experience, capture over USB into Premiere Elements has never been successful -- even when the camcorder uses Video Class 1, technology that was pretty much obsolete before it was fully deployed.
Trust me. FireWire is the only way to go for video capture.
All I can say is, capture via USB worked just fine in the two previous versions (4 and 6) of Premiere Elements. In fact, it worked so well, I actually uninstalled the DVMotion capturing software that came with my Panasonic camcorder, and I only used PE to capture video because it worked so well. That is, until I bought and started using PE 7 this month. Why advertise that it works with USB if it really doesn't? I'm disappointed and considering asking for my money back. I was better off with version 6. It bothers me that a new version doesn't work (a) as advertised and (b) as well as a previous version. My Dell Dimension 8400 doesn't have a Firewire connection. Is the only other alternative to get an expansion card? I tried that once when I bought a 500 GB external drive and the expansion card itself caused more problems than it resolved. Pulled the card, and use USB instead. What a hassle!
You can certainly contact Adobe Tech Support and see if there's another solution.
But, as I said, in my experience (and I've got a USB Video Class camcorder) capture through other-than-FireWire just won't go in version 7.
One possible solution is to capture into Windows MovieMaker. That should support USB Video Class capture. You might even want to try the free capture utility WinDV. Both of these capture as DV-AVIs, which are perfectly compatible with Premiere Elements.
Thought I'd update this with my final resolution. I began to have an additional problem with PE 7 involving a complete ''Not Responding'' freeze while simply adding some titling to certain scenes. After trying a variety of suggested techniques to get the video capture working via USB (as advertised), I finally requested a refund for PE 7, uninstalled it from my computer, and reinstalled PE 4. Of course, I tried capturing camcorder video via USB then with PE 4, and it worked like a charm. So my suspicion remains that there's some sort of bug in PE 7, unless there's some unresolvable conflict that I'm unable to figure out. I'm not a computing newbie. I've been doing this stuff since MS-DOS. If I'm having trouble, my guess is that other people are equally frustrated with PE 7. Now that I've compared version 7 to version 4, I really don't see that many really useful improvements.
If anyone knows how to elevate this issue to Adobe's tech staff, perhaps they can resolve it. I've given up on it and don't have the energy to jump through any more hoops to get it to their attention. Sometimes older is better than newer, at least for some of us.
Heck Russ, I still like and use version 3 more than anything else 8)
Yeah, I made a mistake in some of my earlier postings with a reference to a version 6, which I discovered I did not own (and am not even sure existed). However, version 4 works great for capturing video from camcorders that use a USB 2 connection, like my Panasonic. I just finished importing more than an hour of camcorder video with not a single hitch.
%26gt;version 6, which I discovered I did not own (and am not even sure existed
Nope, no version 6 will ever come to be. Adobe skipped versions 5 and 6 to catch up to Photoshop Elements.
itis strange that you are facing trouble with capture. I am using a firewire capture and PE7 works perfectly fine for me. can someone give me more details about how and when it crashes. it will be a good case to get back to tech support.
Whenever I connect my digital video camera (which is panasonic) and click to capture from DV a sign comes up to say there is a runtime error and the program has to terminate. Then when I click ok PE7 shuts down.
Any ideas? Thanks!! I would love to know that it works before I buy it.
run time error when capturing from...
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run time error when capturing from...
Steve,
OK, I slept in and have only had one cup of coffee, but I cannot find Kate's system specs. anywhere. How did you know?
Kate,
Runtime errors are usually generated at the OS level. They most often stem from a problem with the Runtime.dll in Windows. Outside forces can trigger them, but so can internal OS forces. Though mainly from P-Pro, some of these issues might help you troubleshoot your problem:
http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=runtime%26amp;go=1
There are several discussions, so you will have some reading in front of you. You should get some ideas about where to start, and then others can possibly help you here.
Good luck,
Hunt
Maybe I didn't have enough coffee, Hunt! I confused two postings -- so I've removed my posting here. Thanks for catching it for me!
Kate, can you also tell us more about your computer?
What processor do you have, how much RAM and how much free, defragmented hard drive space is on your hard drive? Also, are you using Vista Sp1 or XP sp3? And have you ensured that you've installed the latest version of Quicktime?
Also, is your camcorder a miniDV or HDV camcorder connected via FireWire or is it another type of camcorder?
Kate,
Here is another Runtime article from MS:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;884538
Hunt
I am actually running windows XP with about 512MB of RAM and 8GB defragmented hard drive space.
My camcorder in miniDV.
Thank you.
Ouch! That's barely enough room for the program to function, Kate!
As a bare minimum, you want 1 gig of RAM (2 gig is ideal with XP) and at least 20-30 gigs of free, defragmented hard drive space. (In addition, you'll want at least 20 gigs of free space for every hour of video you plan to capture.)
8 gigs of free hard drive space is a sure recipe for disaster, especially when you're working with intensive programs like photo and video editors. You simply don't have enough room for the program to write scratch files.
Kate,
As Steve points out, your system is likely running out of disk space, just with the Page File (Windows' virtual memory, especially if it's set to dynamically manage). Add a full GB of RAM, and a second physical HDD, and you will likely eliminate many of the problems.
Hunt
But the program runs fine and quite smoothly unless I try to capture.. I'm currently backing up my hard drive then I'm going to download the hotfix suggested from microsoft and see how it goes.. I will let you know.
Thank you for all your help!
Kate, you don't have enough scratch disk space. It may seem to operate, but I guarantee you that any intensive function -- capture, creating titles, burning a DVD -- is going to lock up and shut down the program.
I am having the same problem, but my computer is a Dell 8400 with 3 GB RAM, and oodles of hard drive space, running Windows XP Pro SP-3 with all the latest updates installed. I have a Panasonic PV-GS500 camcorder. It connects via USB 2.0 to my computer. I previously used PE 4 and then 6 and was able to capture video from the camcorder via USB. PE 7 runs fine, for all other purposes, but when I try to capture video from the camcorder, as soon as I click on the DV Camcorder icon, the frame of the capture window appears but before it completely opens I immediately get the message: ''Premiere Elements Debug Event -- Premiere Elements has encountered an error [..\..\Src\Timecode.cpp-995].'' This is followed by an MS Visual C++ Runtime error, and Premiere Elements closes all windows and shuts down. I've tried following most of the suggested troubleshooting articles. I even uninstalled PE 7 and reinstalled it. I've made sure to set the Device Control to ''USB Class 1.0 Device Control''. Nothing has helped so far. I've had to resort to using the software (MotionDV Studio) that came with the Panasonic to at least capture my video, then import the resulting avi file into PE 7. That works, but this is NOT how Premiere Elements is supposed to work. It's advertised as working with USB, but they seem to have second thoughts about that AFTER you buy it and are then told it works better with Firewire. Since I don't have a Firewire connection, I'm frustrated, as you can tell. Anyone out there have a clue?
Doesn't sound like the same problem at all, Russ, otherwise we'd give you the same advice. So you'll get better response to your posting if you create your own thread.
Meantime, make sure you've updated to the latest Quicktime.
And DON'T capture over USB. That camcorder also have a connector for a FireWire cable, and if you connect to your computer over FireWire, and you've got the latest Quicktime, most likely it will resolve your issues.
Russ,
Before you initiate your separate post, you might wish to expand this thread. I posted several links to Runtime Errors earlier on. There might be something of use in those.
Also, I am not aware that any version of PE could Capture via USB.
Good luck,
Hunt
[Edit] I am partially correct, but partially incorrect. From the Adobe PE Readme:
i ''To connect DV camcorders via USB2 instead of FireWire you will need to verify your DV camcorder supports the USB Video Class 1.0 driver (sometimes advertised as USB over DV, DV Motion, USB 2.0 DV streaming). Most DV Camcorders do not currently support this driver. The older USB streaming format common on many DV camcorders is not able to send the video in the DV format over USB and is therefore not supported in Adobe Premiere Elements.''
Learn something new everyday.
In my experience, capture over USB into Premiere Elements has never been successful -- even when the camcorder uses Video Class 1, technology that was pretty much obsolete before it was fully deployed.
Trust me. FireWire is the only way to go for video capture.
All I can say is, capture via USB worked just fine in the two previous versions (4 and 6) of Premiere Elements. In fact, it worked so well, I actually uninstalled the DVMotion capturing software that came with my Panasonic camcorder, and I only used PE to capture video because it worked so well. That is, until I bought and started using PE 7 this month. Why advertise that it works with USB if it really doesn't? I'm disappointed and considering asking for my money back. I was better off with version 6. It bothers me that a new version doesn't work (a) as advertised and (b) as well as a previous version. My Dell Dimension 8400 doesn't have a Firewire connection. Is the only other alternative to get an expansion card? I tried that once when I bought a 500 GB external drive and the expansion card itself caused more problems than it resolved. Pulled the card, and use USB instead. What a hassle!
You can certainly contact Adobe Tech Support and see if there's another solution.
But, as I said, in my experience (and I've got a USB Video Class camcorder) capture through other-than-FireWire just won't go in version 7.
One possible solution is to capture into Windows MovieMaker. That should support USB Video Class capture. You might even want to try the free capture utility WinDV. Both of these capture as DV-AVIs, which are perfectly compatible with Premiere Elements.
Thought I'd update this with my final resolution. I began to have an additional problem with PE 7 involving a complete ''Not Responding'' freeze while simply adding some titling to certain scenes. After trying a variety of suggested techniques to get the video capture working via USB (as advertised), I finally requested a refund for PE 7, uninstalled it from my computer, and reinstalled PE 4. Of course, I tried capturing camcorder video via USB then with PE 4, and it worked like a charm. So my suspicion remains that there's some sort of bug in PE 7, unless there's some unresolvable conflict that I'm unable to figure out. I'm not a computing newbie. I've been doing this stuff since MS-DOS. If I'm having trouble, my guess is that other people are equally frustrated with PE 7. Now that I've compared version 7 to version 4, I really don't see that many really useful improvements.
If anyone knows how to elevate this issue to Adobe's tech staff, perhaps they can resolve it. I've given up on it and don't have the energy to jump through any more hoops to get it to their attention. Sometimes older is better than newer, at least for some of us.
Heck Russ, I still like and use version 3 more than anything else 8)
Yeah, I made a mistake in some of my earlier postings with a reference to a version 6, which I discovered I did not own (and am not even sure existed). However, version 4 works great for capturing video from camcorders that use a USB 2 connection, like my Panasonic. I just finished importing more than an hour of camcorder video with not a single hitch.
%26gt;version 6, which I discovered I did not own (and am not even sure existed
Nope, no version 6 will ever come to be. Adobe skipped versions 5 and 6 to catch up to Photoshop Elements.
itis strange that you are facing trouble with capture. I am using a firewire capture and PE7 works perfectly fine for me. can someone give me more details about how and when it crashes. it will be a good case to get back to tech support.
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